I have accounts with 56 different betting companies.
I have completed 682 'offers'.
And yet, with that experience I still had a nightmare of a weekend.
I am hoping that by taking the time to reflect and write down what I did this weekend and the decisions I took that I will learn from my experience and avoid this in the future.
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Act 1. Sign up and get bonus.
I signed up with Titanbet.
They have a fairly standard join up offer of 50% matched deposit. I took up the max which was deposit £50, get a £50 bonus.
Now, there are a couple of quirks to this offer which a fundamental.
#1 The deposit and winnings need to be turned over 7 times before withdrawal.
#2 These need to be turned over within 14 days.
and the killer #3 bonus winnings are capped at £500.
My qualification bet won so I was +37.50 in the Titanbet account. Bonus was then received.
Time to lose this into the Exchange.
3 bets were placed - £50, £50 and £37.50 placed - to use up all the funds. Best case these all lose to the Exchange and I'm done and walk away with the profit.
Bets 1 and 2 lost. Bet 3 however won at odds of 5.25 - giving me a return of £196.88.
Act 2. All bets win. Surely a good thing right?
Before I went to bed I then placed three £50 bets on outsiders expecting to lose this money into the exchange as quickly as I could.
I woke up Sunday morning and this had happened.
- Horse at Cheltenham had won at odds of 4.50 = £225
- Roma had beaten Napoli away at odds of 7 = £350
- and NAC had beaten Feyenoord at odds of 6.25 = £312.50
If I had placed a three fold accumulator on these three coming in £50 would have returned me £9,843! such were the odds.
Now, the realisation kicks in. Sweaty palms. Distant looks whilst the wife asks me whether I wan't a cup of tea etc
I now have £1,171.88 sat in the Titanbet account.
The maximum I can withdraw is £600.
I don't have much money left in my Exchange
And am not even half way through wagering, which has to complete before I next get paid.
So, what did I do next.
I confessed to the wife, and accepted the cup of tea. And explained that I may need the day to sort out this mess and then went on a bit of a gambling spree.
Act 3. Save the situation.
I backed a random Mexican game to end in a draw. I then refreshed the page for 90 minutes as CD Tondela held on for a victory - it was 1-0 until the 97' when GOAL flashed up. Luckily it made it 2-0.
I had successfully begun to claw money back into the Exchange and lower my balance in Titanbet.
Next I tried to calm down and place sensible low odds, good match bets.
I bet on Arsenal to beat Brighton. However, I also panicked and then also bet on the draw and Brighton to win. The best case here was that Arsenal won - that would return £97.50 into Titanbet but the Brighton and Draw bets would lose -£100. So a net of £2.50 from Titanbet to the Exchange.
Then the game started and Brighton took the lead!
Further panic ensued so I backed Arsenal again with a further £50.
When the game ended 2-1 to Brighton all I had done was add a further £47.50 to my Titanbet account, almost cancelling out the Tondela victory.
With Barca and Man City coming up in the afternoon I had two choices.
Both at Home and both were both good matches with the Exchange. In any normal circumstance I would have - and will in future - go with the good match. But here I was having to lose several hundred from my Titanbet account and yet both were likely to win. BUT... if I laid Chelsea or Atletico - or even the draw - and those results came in I'd have almost all of my money tied up in Titanbet.
As luck would have it.... LIONEL MESSI did the job for Barca and even though I was concerned for a last minute equaliser Bernado Silvas goal settled the win for Man City.
and breatheeeeee.
I still had a lot to lose from Titanbet into the Exchange, but I was feeling more comfortable and positive. So I returned to what I should have done. Bet on good matches around 1.5 to 2.0 odds.
- Sociedad to beat Alaves. £27.50 more into Titanbet :(
- Motherwell Hearts under 2.5 goals. An 86' goal made it 2-1. Lost £50 to the Exchange :)
- I was sat watching Bayern beating Freiburg and 2-0 at 45 mins and thought this isn't going to stay this way. Bayern to win 2-0. Lost. £50 to the Exchange :) This was high-odds but I was confident whislt watching. Never a good idea obviously as all of this shows.
- Valencia to beat Betis. Won. £25 more into Titanbet :(
With Man City and Barca winning, and me getting 2/4 of the bets to lose into the Exchange AND the winners being low odds I was getting close to the £600 (£500 winnings and £100 cash balance) balance I needed and only had £100 of turnover left.
Act 4. 1 un-laid bet. 2 red-cards. And probably 3 years off my life expectancy.
- Huesca are losing at home to Almeria with 20' played. I lay Huesca.
- I realise that Huesca are top of the 2nd Division in Spain and on form. Almeria are mid-table and out of form. I panic. There are still 70' left.
- Huesca equalise. I lay nearly £80 on Almeria winning. I do not back Almeria on Titanbet. I Almeira are at odds of 8 at this point. I could lose £600~ quid. I decided to wait a little longer and back Almeria when they have drifted further and lock in more profit.
- Huesca score again 2-1. I feel pretty chuffed and think "why back now" that's an £80 profit.
- 72' Huesca get a man sent off. I sit very still.
- 84' Almeria equalise. Still no back from me.
- 86' Huesca get a second man sent off. I am pretty much paralised now. The ref adds on 4 minutes of stoppage time. There is no point in backing now as it would only lock in a giant loss.
Watching those final minutes with 9 men Huesca defending was terrible. Several crosses were cleared. One shot blocked. 9 men on a team looks quite odd and there were holes everywhere.
- The final whistle goes. I've made a good profit on the match and am almost in tears.
Act 5. Closing sequence.
The final match.
I've backed Marseille to beat Nantes. I have a balance of £600 and this £50 open bet. And when the bet is settled I will have completed the wagering.
Nantes take an early lead. I feel invincible.
In injury time Nantes then get a man sent off. I panic. But still feel confident.
Then Marseille equalise. "One more chance" the commentator says for the win.
One bad control from a Marseille midfielder the ball rolls out of touch and the Nantes player takes up an age. Throw in, few passes and the final whistle.
I feel like I've won a cup myself!!!!!!
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At this point. I update the spreadsheet.
Work out that I've made over £80 in profit.
Have £600 in balance with Titanbet which has completed wagering.
I withdraw.
Apologize to the wife and kids for the person I've been all day.
And then go to bed absolutely buzzing.
Never again.
At one point earlier in the day I had even miscalculated and thought that it was likely I was going to lose £900 which is a couple of hundred off all of my Matched Betting money. My Matched Betting money = my only cash savings.
Going forward I can look back almost positively as I came out on top. But that was purely by chance. And the decisions I made deserved really to result in a large loss.
So, I'm going to count my blessings. Take my winnings into CHeltenham and be sensible.
Oh wow, you fell into the same trap I've seen many others do.. and then made the fatel mistake of trying to "lose it into the exchange". If it were possible to always predicted such losing matches we'd just stick to placing Lay bets all day and become millionaires.
ReplyDeleteIn future, and for anyone else who may read this and end up in the same situation, the best thing to do here would have been to keep placing low odds bets to complete the rollover requirements but not laying any off. Trying to continue through normal matched bets will usually only compound the problem.
Yeah, agree. I am surprised looking back how un-rational I was thinking and the idea of crystallizing loses when there was still a chance to re-coup was too painful.
DeleteLot's of lessons in there. Mainly to think before you act and don't resort to outright gambling as I was!!
I'm glad it worked out this time but....
ReplyDeleteYea you got away with this one!
Just think... one more high odds win into Titan bet and you would have been screwed even more... say if Chelsea or Atletico had won (or drew, not entirely sure what you did with those games?).
At the point you have gone over the £600 if you are backing then laying on the exchange literally all you are doing it gambling that the lay will come in. There is no point in placing the back bet with Titan bet because if it wins you cannot withdraw that money.
It's a shame you didn't read my post about the Winner offer beforehand as I did exactly the same thing:
http://thefirestarter.co.uk/matched-betting-pitfalls-avoid-1-winner-co-uk-200-offer/
That might have saved you a few of those heart palpitations :)
As you can see I realised my mistake and just took the potential loss, as didn't want to lock any further losses in. Still came out of it relatively unscathed, so wasn't the end of the world.
In future when I see these sort of offers I will either avoid them (as they are really scummy T&Cs) or massively underlay the initial bets so you have profit to play with if they win on the bookie side. Also only do them one at a time so you can see whether you will hit the winnings cap with each bet.
Hey, yeah I'm under no illusions that this was just plain outright gambling. I think at one point in the day I had consigned myself to losing most of it and accepting that all the effort of the last 6-12 months had been wasted.
DeleteYeah, certainly wish I'd seen your article.
Ha, having read it now it's just exactly the same, but probably in a worse situation initially and you handled it slightly better :)
And WOW Winner seems even worse than TitanBet!!
Initially I got angry at the 'capped' winnings but then just thought this is my fault and that what these guys are out to do.
Yea it happens to the best of us so no need to feel bad (sorry if my comment did that btw... that certainly wasn't the intention)
ReplyDeleteAnd for the record I do a lot of outright gambling anyway where I think I have an edge so I can't really comment on that... haha. Did sound like you went a bit "on tilt" though but at the end of the day it all worked out well so all good :)
Yea Winner are basically scumbags IMO. I actually knew about the winnings cap as well but just wasn't thinking straight when I put the initial bet on. But I bet a load of regular punters get caught out by that one let alone matched bettors.
Again just goes to show even those with a lot of MB experience can get their fingers burnt... always need to be on the ball!
Good luck for your future MB'ing :)
Cheers
Also, Winner and Titan are (unsurprisingly) the same company by the way, if you hadn't already guessed haha.
DeleteHa, I hadn't realised that, but then again it doesn't surprise me given the Ts & Cs are so similar. I assume it's terms like this that generally give betting a bad name and lead to focused attention UK policy makers looking to make the landscape more fair and cleaner. I've always has a massive hatred of Casino wagering and see that as just as bad... but because it's so widely practiced it's more accepted, though even that seems to be looking like it might be running for the hills too.
DeleteJeez Brian, my heart was pounding as I was reading that, I really felt your PAIN going through that!
ReplyDeleteYou were fortunate in the end to come out pretty unscathed - as I commented against TFS' Winner post, these are the kinds of offers I don't attempt. In the early days, I got stung a few times where I kept winning at the bookies and didn't have a large enough float in my exchanges but they're managed better now.
I've recently been gubbed by Titanbet, which is strange seeing as all I ever did was the odd £5 no lay acca.
Yeah, it was certainly a stressful day, not enjoyable! :)
ReplyDeleteGubbed by them for £5 accas here and there! ha. There really isn't much rhyme or reason sometimes to gubbs is there. I've been lucky so far and not lost too many of the main accounts.
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